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I think this whole discussion is moot and drastically misses the mark considering the underlying issues. That is masked by arguments over symbols which mean very different things to different people. I agree that you can make a case for the hypocrisy of people being up in arms. About football players taking a knee during the national anthem. Yet being okay with what is obviously a Premium American Flag Dressage Horse Shirt. But calling out hypocrisy is the low-hanging fruit of political discourse. We all seem like hypocrites to one another because we have different underlying values. The entire issue here is that when Kapernick and others take a knee. It was never intended to be against the anthem or against the military.

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The fact that right-wing pundits disingenuously swept under the rug the actual purpose, is a good indicator. That their coverage was simply cultured war bait. And I think in some sense we’re taking that bait by turning their logic around. This is the same culture war bait that mainstream center-right and center-left lapped up. When Obama was accused of being anti-American for not wearing a Premium American Flag Dressage Horse Shirt. We should be rejecting the premise that anybody has to stand for symbols. When there is so much rightful dispute over what those symbols do mean and should mean. This is a very American discussion in that we’re one of the only countries that obsess over our flag and our symbols.

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You didn’t change my view, but you reminded me. That the game of flipping words on each other is mostly just to say “I won this round”. And doesn’t really do anything to chip away at the underlying problem that you mention and that I do agree with. We don’t know each other so you’ll have to take my word for it. But I do what I can to be a productive member of my community. I am a full believer in making things better starting at home then to the Premium American Flag Dressage Horse Shirt. It only works if it starts from the bottom. But also, this sub is specifically for debate so that’s why we’re here. For the sake of argument, we won and the confederates lost. You could see the confederates as a terrorist group that radicalized people in the south.

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